Hi,

in Riga have now 3 trolleybus-trains (coupled sets of trolleybuses, tractions, szepka) with 2x SKODA 9Tr (Info from Wadim).

In wath towns have now trolleybus-trains and how many?

Mattis

from Berlin

We have 4 trolleybus trains:
#079-080
#093-094
#106-107
#114-115
#116-117
all trolleybuses are HTI682G00 type.

Hi Victor,

How many trains You have in all times in Krasnodar?

You knowing the electrics from this trains?
I think the master controler from the frist car giv the command-signals paralell on too gear controler (in the first and the secound car).

From the steering I have drawings.

Mattis from Berlin

we make the first #079-080 in 1993.
Mattis, you are right.
By the way, can you send me photo of "short" ZIU in Volgograd?

Well these trains are known as 12Tr (constructed of 9TrH - of course 12TrH) - it's purely Kiev invotion. The first one was made in 1968 by Kiev engineer Veklitch, and during all time Kiev got 9Trs from CZ (until 1982), the huge part of them were strictly reconstructed in trains. Much later the same was made with ZIU-9, but with another engineers. Skoda was against using that ones, but soviet burning proudness would spit on them all %-)

Kiev stopped using 9Trs on routes in 1996 and 12Tr a little earlier, but some cities, where 9s still left (incl Riga), have a number of 12s too. I don't know what - maybe in Simferopol or Sevastopol, don't sure about Lemberg. Rovno also have a number of 9s, but I think there were no 12s at all.

You can read more on my site "History of Kiev City Transport" (still in Russian only) in the "Roll-Stock" chapter. Please, don't use forums - I'll change them in the nearest time. Danke

In Sebastopol, there are no "Skoda"s now (only ZIU-9, YuMZ-T2 and one YuMZ-T1; none of them combined in trains). In Yalta and Simferopol, there are some "Skoda"s (9T and 14T), but likely there are no trains in these towns either. Some photos are available on http://www.mccme.ru/~kondr/photos/ - including photos of "Skoda"s in Sebastopol made in 1987.

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Поезда из 9Тр были:
Киев около 300 (кстати все двухдверные, кроме поезда 1631/1643, который скоро опять расчленили)
Рига около 90 (единственный, где и много трехдверных)
Таллинн 30
Днепропетровск 22 (последний 531/532 списан 1986)
Севастополь 10 (500/501-518/519)
Симферополь 3 (1305/1306, 1320/1321, 1455/1475), но это было очень давно, до 1985 года
Харьков 10
Гордовка 4 (последние 104/154 и 106/156 списаны 1992)
Вроде бы все!

Hi Volodja,

in 1991 ended the dirving with 9Tr-trolley-trains in Sevastopol. The cars was bulid in 1973.

The pics on the link not in operating?!?

Mattis
from Berlin

http://www.mccme.ru/~kondr/photos/

Hi, Mattis!

Thank you for the exact information about Sebastopol. I remember only that there were trains in 1987 (http://www.mccme.ru/~kondr/photos/seb87_2.html) and there
were no trains in 2000.

Three more questions:

1) When did they stop to use trains in Simferopol?

2) Were there trains in Yalta?

3) Why did they use current collector of the second trolley?

The same in Russian / То же по-русски

Привет, Маттис!

Большое спасибо за точную информацию про Севастополь. Я сам помню только, что в 1987 троллейбусные поезда были
(http://www.mccme.ru/~kondr/photos/seb87_2.html), а в 2000 их не было.

Три новых вопроса.

1) Когда перестали эксплуатировать троллейбусные поезда в Симферополе?

2) Были ли поезда в Ялте?

3) Почему токоприемники поднимались на втором троллейбусе?Mattis писал(а):

А разве в России нет троллейбусных поездов??? Я четко помню года два назад троллейбусные поезда в Ярославле...

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На сегодняшний момент в Санкт-Петербурге остались в живых 12 сплоток ЗиУ-682ВОО и ВОА. Две - во 2ТП (в этом году на зимний период на линии их не выпускают) и 10 - в 6ТП. После посещения территории 6ТП были обнаружены 2 сплотки с одинаковыми парковыми номерами (что не редкость для 6ТП вообще). Посему, считаем, что живых 12+1. Вообще, троллейбусы 6ТП в ужасном состоянии, работают на самых напряжённых маршрутах (25, 50) и, как видно, находятся в ожидании, когда пробъёт "их час"... :(